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Sun Oct 21, 2012 4:10 pm
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20 carries
35yards

I know MM likes to talk about the number of carries per game but cmon, 35 yards rushing?. GB needs way more production out of the RB than that unless you expect Rodgers to go 300+yards per game with 4 TDs.

Time to throw the Rams a bone and pony up for Steven Jackson in a trade so we can make another Super Bowl run. cmon TT!
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There were a couple times where he slipped and could have had more yards, but for the most part it looked like the Oline didn't do a good job of run blocking today. Guys were in the backfield blowing up the play as soon as Green got the hand off. Not much he could do about that.
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Sun Oct 21, 2012 6:18 pm
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20 carries
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GB needs way more production out of the RB than that unless you expect Rodgers to go 300+yards per game with 4 TDs.


I do expect that..

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Until our O-line learns to block, expect more of the same. It's always been the weak link. Nothing appears to have changed.

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There were a couple times where he slipped and could have had more yards, but for the most part it looked like the Oline didn't do a good job of run blocking today. Guys were in the backfield blowing up the play as soon as Green got the hand off. Not much he could do about that.


Didn't look as if he had much room to run today, not as much as last week anyway.

Got to watch the game today thanks to the PP stream. Thanks LF.
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And against a D that RARELY had 8 in the box. Not even 7 much of the day.

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BradBreakerXXX wrote:
There were a couple times where he slipped and could have had more yards, but for the most part it looked like the Oline didn't do a good job of run blocking today. Guys were in the backfield blowing up the play as soon as Green got the hand off. Not much he could do about that.


Didn't look as if he had much room to run today, not as much as last week anyway.

Got to watch the game today thanks to the PP stream. Thanks LF.


eventually ya have to look at the poor technique and inconsistancy of our olineman and come to the conclusion that better coaching may produce better results, we looked like crap in pass pro for the whole 1st half as well, a fire was built under there asses at half time, and they played better in the 2nd half pass blocking, but the run blocking still sucked, and Green is not Benson, he missed some cut backs, tripped and basically looked slow in the backfield.

time to find a oline coach that can keep these guys motivated and more consistant, Campen has had 5 years.

just look how well the Rams oline played, and thats a make shift unit full of backups, this has become down right shameful, I've tried to back Campen, but it's the same crap, one week the line looks to play well, the next they look like rookies, time for a change.

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BradBreakerXXX wrote:
There were a couple times where he slipped and could have had more yards, but for the most part it looked like the Oline didn't do a good job of run blocking today. Guys were in the backfield blowing up the play as soon as Green got the hand off. Not much he could do about that.


Didn't look as if he had much room to run today, not as much as last week anyway.

Got to watch the game today thanks to the PP stream. Thanks LF.


eventually ya have to look at the poor technique and inconsistancy of our olineman and come to the conclusion that better coaching may produce better results, we looked like crap in pass pro for the whole 1st half as well, a fire was built under there asses at half time, and they played better in the 2nd half pass blocking, but the run blocking still sucked, and Green is not Benson, he missed some cut backs, tripped and basically looked slow in the backfield.

time to find a oline coach that can keep these guys motivated and more consistant, Campen has had 5 years.

just look how well the Rams oline played, and thats a make shift unit full of backups, this has become down right shameful, I've tried to back Campen, but it's the same crap, one week the line looks to play well, the next they look like rookies, time for a change.


Ultimately, the buck stops with McCarthy. Campen's on his staff. The running back cupboard isn't exactly overflowing either. First half the Rams go some pressure, but Rodgers just refused to throw the ball away. Same old problem. AR won't force the ball into coverage like Faver, but at times he just stands there and takes the sack and loses yardage. Not the fault of the
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McCarthy must have mentioned something at the half because AR dinged his completion % a few times in the second-half. He may be the most accurate, mobile QB since Steve Young.
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Mon Oct 22, 2012 2:18 pm
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TT & MM build this team to be a pass-attack one like NE or NO. Despite MM's mantra it's obvious they never really cared about the running game more than an "honesty-maker".

I can understand their point: We would not have smoked out Atlanta in the 2011 divisional game after being 0-14 if we were a team like the Giants. Or take the 2008 game against Seattle which we won after down 0-14 as well.

That is the upside of this strategy.

The downside? Well, look at both playoff games with the Giants (2008, 2012). As soon as the pass doesn't work you are one-dimensional on offense whereas the Giants have an advantage because they are build more like a hybrid: good, but not great run, good, but not great pass.

Now if the D! is for real our strategy is as good as any, but if not...well rewatch those Giants game to be pissed.
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Our pass protection looked fine.





...OH WAIT I FORGOT WE'RE A RUNNING TEAM

The Rams are a top 10 defense and we played them at home where they were previously undefeated.

How can you possibly complain about anything right now. Our run game looks awful? Who gives a fuck. Our run game looked good the first couple of weeks and Aaron Rodgers looked miserable. Which would you rather have? A good run game and 2-3 or an awesome pass game and 4-3.

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Which would you rather have? A good run game and 2-3 or an awesome pass game and 4-3.


Take the Seattle & Indy anomalies away and this becomes a decision between a rock and a hard place....
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Our pass protection looked fine.





...OH WAIT I FORGOT WE'RE A RUNNING TEAM

The Rams are a top 10 defense and we played them at home where they were previously undefeated.

How can you possibly complain about anything right now. Our run game looks awful? Who gives a fuck. Our run game looked good the first couple of weeks and Aaron Rodgers looked miserable. Which would you rather have? A good run game and 2-3 or an awesome pass game and 4-3.


Well said Marano except 5 < 7 in the games played. There is a lot hand-wringing over the so-called running game constantly. Those runs and short passes to Cobb are part of the running game and McCarthy says victory looks great from his vantage point.
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TT & MM build this team to be a pass-attack one like NE or NO. Despite MM's mantra it's obvious they never really cared about the running game more than an "honesty-maker".

I can understand their point: We would not have smoked out Atlanta in the 2011 divisional game after being 0-14 if we were a team like the Giants. Or take the 2008 game against Seattle which we won after down 0-14 as well.

That is the upside of this strategy.

The downside? Well, look at both playoff games with the Giants (2008, 2012). As soon as the pass doesn't work you are one-dimensional on offense whereas the Giants have an advantage because they are build more like a hybrid: good, but not great run, good, but not great pass.

Now if the D! is for real our strategy is as good as any, but if not...well rewatch those Giants game to be pissed.


The Giants were 32nd in rushing offense last year.

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Marano 20 wrote:
Our pass protection looked fine.





...OH WAIT I FORGOT WE'RE A RUNNING TEAM

The Rams are a top 10 defense and we played them at home where they were previously undefeated.

How can you possibly complain about anything right now. Our run game looks awful? Who gives a fuck. Our run game looked good the first couple of weeks and Aaron Rodgers looked miserable. Which would you rather have? A good run game and 2-3 or an awesome pass game and 4-3.
But with as much as has been invested in the O-line I would expect it to be at least average. It just isn't all that good. But as long as Aaron stays sharp and doesn't hold on to the ball to long, it's good enough to win. And maybe once Alex Green gets enough games under his belt, he'll start finding those holes.

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Who cares how we move the chains, whether it be running, short passes to RBs or WRs. Gren didn't have a chance at making any yardage the way the OLine was getting blown up every play, especially in the first half. Maybe it is a Oline coaching problem because the Rams had a line made up of mix and match nobodies and CM still couldn't get to the QB only once and they were shredding our Def for awhile early. AR was on target like a laser when he had just a little bit of time which he didn't during the first 2 series. Both their end rushers are really good and Brockers up the middle. Jordy was eating his man up for first downs and even Kuhn had some nice surprise gains. GB's onside kick was great right after we scored our first TD. I think we got stopped on 3rd and 1 when AR over-threw the bomb to JJ and we punted, another wasted 1 yd opportunity to get an easy first down.
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