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Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:01 pm
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There was also what should have been a second SB appearance but for your boy Faver's choke at the end v. the Giants.


I love this quote. He was playing his ass off the entire game while the rest of the team looked like they couldn't care less. An int at the end and it was ALL his fault right? AR is a great quarterback too but I think the results would've been similar if he was in that position.

I agree with Bus on this one. We are the same type of team we were under Sherman. Good offense and a bad defense which will result in us making the playoffs but losing in the first or second round. We need a defense if we're ever gonna go deep in the playoffs. I think the rest of the nfl has figured out our offense so we're not gonna be able to run it up every week. Capers has to try something different or put some of the back ups in to light a fire under our starters asses. I'm just tired of seeing this defense suck ass every year and costing us game after game.

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Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:07 pm
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There was also what should have been a second SB appearance but for your boy Faver's choke at the end v. the Giants.


I love this quote. He was playing his ass off the entire game while the rest of the team looked like they couldn't care less. An int at the end and it was ALL his fault right? AR is a great quarterback too but I think the results would've been similar if he was in that position.

I agree with Bus on this one. We are the same type of team we were under Sherman. Good offense and a bad defense which will result in us making the playoffs but losing in the first or second round. We need a defense if we're ever gonna go deep in the playoffs. I think the rest of the nfl has figured out our offense so we're not gonna be able to run it up every week. Capers has to try something different or put some of the back ups in to light a fire under our starters asses. I'm just tired of seeing this defense suck ass every year and costing us game after game.




I dont think Rodgers would throw to the only covered guy on the field. That was #4's specialty.

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I don't recall Sherman using the prevent D very much.

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Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:24 pm
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I don't recall Sherman using the prevent D very much.


Sherman didn't even suit up a kicker. The only kicker on the roster was BJ. Now the only guy who gives BJs is our GM

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Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:25 pm
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I guess i'll be the one who argues on behalf of Ahman Green

2000: (16 games)
1,175yds 4.5avg 10 TDs
73 rec. 600 yards 3 TDs

2001: (16 games)
1,387yds 4.6avg 9TDs
62rec 600 yards 2 TDs

2002: (14 games)
1,240yds 4.3avg 7 TDs
57rec 400yards 2 TDs

2003: (16 games)
1,883yds 5.3avg 15 TDs
50rec 370yds 5TDs

2004: (15 games)
1,163yds 4.5avg 9 TDs
40 rec 275yds 1 TD

That seems like a pretty good running back to me.


He was a pretty good running back, but you would think, at least I did, that the Packers would have a GREAT RB at least once since the 60s.

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Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:42 pm
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There was also what should have been a second SB appearance but for your boy Faver's choke at the end v. the Giants.


I love this quote. He was playing his ass off the entire game while the rest of the team looked like they couldn't care less. An int at the end and it was ALL his fault right? AR is a great quarterback too but I think the results would've been similar if he was in that position.

I agree with Bus on this one. We are the same type of team we were under Sherman. Good offense and a bad defense which will result in us making the playoffs but losing in the first or second round. We need a defense if we're ever gonna go deep in the playoffs. I think the rest of the nfl has figured out our offense so we're not gonna be able to run it up every week. Capers has to try something different or put some of the back ups in to light a fire under our starters asses. I'm just tired of seeing this defense suck ass every year and costing us game after game.



Bus was not right about the Giants' game. The defense was just fine that day. My point was that TT built a SB caliber-team in 2007, one that had the ball at the end with a chance at the SB and Faver threw it away. Just like he did with the Vikings and with the Packers v. Eagles in 2003. There's no denying that fact.

Thompson also built a MM coached SB team in 2010 and they won that time.
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I don't recall Sherman using the prevent D very much.


4th and 26 v. the Eagles in that fucking game the Packers should have won. Green fumbles, Faver throws it to the other team, and Bus's boy Shermy goes 3-man rush.
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Well, there is that little thing called a SB title from a team TT built from scratch after Sherman drafted and signed players (Joe Johnson, BJ Sander) like he was a retard on qualudes. You'll never be able to touch that, Bus. There was also what should have been a second SB appearance but for your boy Faver's choke at the end v. the Giants.

Sherman was canned as GM after the 2004 season. Time to let that era go.


There was also that should have been a second SB appearance last year but your boy TT forgot to build from scratch a defense.

Time to let this era go.


Not gonna win the SB every year, Bus.

On Faver, you can't have it both ways. If he didn't have the talent AR enjoys that's on Sherman. And, it makes TT look good by comparison. Faver had plenty of talent---you've said so yourself: Best OLine in the NFL, Ahman Green was an exceptional RB. If Brent hadn't gone into his patented throw a season-ending int. mode he would have enjoyed a third SB under TT/MM in 2008 and a 4th with the Vikings, where he AP. Oh, well. Wink

If any one person cost us the Giants game it was Woodson. And you support my point, we no longer have a good Oline or Advantage Sherman


Woodson? What did he have to do with that icy loss? I remember GB having the ball and Faver throwing it to Corey Webster on the first play. Just like he did v. Philly, St. Louis, the Vikings and the Saints when he played for the Vikings. My point with the Oline and green was to correct the oft-stated whine about poor Brent not having any talent around him.


You must have had your volume down on the TV. I heard Plaxico Burress' name all day long. and the QB throwing to him wasn't ours.


Al Harris was actually the one getting raped by Burress all day, not that it matters anymore.
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Thu Oct 11, 2012 4:41 pm
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Lord said it, it was Harris on Burress mostly, not Woodson.

TT gave us one SB, one NFC game and a 15-1 season in 6 years now PLUS a realistic hope for the future, because we have a team that is already a SB contender talentwise!!! with a future HoF QB. To cry in that situation means losing any vision.

Though I agree that BF never had what AR has. The difference seems to be that AR avoids those exppensive INT's, but only time will tell if that is truly better, because we got a glimpse of what it means if you are cautious with INT's and hold the ball too long.
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Lord said it, it was Harris on Burress mostly, not Woodson.

TT gave us one SB, one NFC game and a 15-1 season in 6 years now PLUS a realistic hope for the future, because we have a team that is already a SB contender talentwise!!! with a future HoF QB. To cry in that situation means losing any vision.

Though I agree that BF never had what AR has. The difference seems to be that AR avoids those exppensive INT's, but only time will tell if that is truly better, because we got a glimpse of what it means if you are cautious with INT's and hold the ball too long.


Too bad Burris didn't shoot himself before that game.
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Thu Oct 11, 2012 5:44 pm
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Lord said it, it was Harris on Burress mostly, not Woodson.

TT gave us one SB, one NFC game and a 15-1 season in 6 years now PLUS a realistic hope for the future, because we have a team that is already a SB contender talentwise!!! with a future HoF QB. To cry in that situation means losing any vision.

Though I agree that BF never had what AR has. The difference seems to be that AR avoids those exppensive INT's, but only time will tell if that is truly better, because we got a glimpse of what it means if you are cautious with INT's and hold the ball too long.
He's reverting back to all the things that made him an average QB 3-4 years ago. I think that Philbin leaving and a new QB coach have more to do with his poor play than we think.

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I agree with Bus on this one. We are the same type of team we were under Sherman. Good offense and a bad defense which will result in us making the playoffs but losing in the first or second round.


Good offense? #18 in points per game, #21 in yards per game. Below average in both stats. And it's not like they've only played vs. good Ds either. Three good ones, two bad ones. Our offense is not good right now. Not yet, anyway.

Bad defense? #14 in points per game, #16 in yards per game. Better rankings than the offense in both stats. Right around average, maybe slightly better.

Also, the main ref fuck jobs have hurt our D more than our O. Seattle with the ending and the phantom pass interference, Indy with the Luck sack/fumble ruled roughing the QB, etc. So the refs have made our D look slightly worse than they have actually performed.

I'll stick to results instead of preceonceptions. We all EXPECTED our O to be the strength of the team, but they haven't been so far. I do expect them to improve, but calling them good at this point just isn't true.

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Fri Oct 12, 2012 3:25 pm
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I guess i'll be the one who argues on behalf of Ahman Green

2000: (16 games)
1,175yds 4.5avg 10 TDs
73 rec. 600 yards 3 TDs

2001: (16 games)
1,387yds 4.6avg 9TDs
62rec 600 yards 2 TDs

2002: (14 games)
1,240yds 4.3avg 7 TDs
57rec 400yards 2 TDs

2003: (16 games)
1,883yds 5.3avg 15 TDs
50rec 370yds 5TDs

2004: (15 games)
1,163yds 4.5avg 9 TDs
40 rec 275yds 1 TD

That seems like a pretty good running back to me.


He was a pretty good running back, but you would think, at least I did, that the Packers would have a GREAT RB at least once since the 60s.


If more teams had a combo of a Hall of Fame QB paired with a great RB there'd be more dynasties in the NFL. I'm willing to bet you couldn't name Brady's RBs during his superbowl years without google. Let me give you a list of the previous superbowl winning RBs.

2011- Ahmad Bradshaw
2010- James Starks
2009- Reggie Bush/Pierre Thomas
2008- Willie Parker
2007- Brandon Jacobs
2006- Jerome Bettis
2005- Corey Dillion
2004- Kevin Faulk
2003- Michael Pittman
2002- Jamal Lewis
2001- Antowain Smith
2000- Marshall Faulk

Running backs are not nearly as important as you're making them out to be in todays day and age.

I can't think of may teams with 2 Hall of fame QBs, with hopefully a 3rd on his way. Theres 3 decades of phenomenal QB play (give/take a couple years)

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Fri Oct 12, 2012 3:49 pm
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I guess i'll be the one who argues on behalf of Ahman Green

2000: (16 games)
1,175yds 4.5avg 10 TDs
73 rec. 600 yards 3 TDs

2001: (16 games)
1,387yds 4.6avg 9TDs
62rec 600 yards 2 TDs

2002: (14 games)
1,240yds 4.3avg 7 TDs
57rec 400yards 2 TDs

2003: (16 games)
1,883yds 5.3avg 15 TDs
50rec 370yds 5TDs

2004: (15 games)
1,163yds 4.5avg 9 TDs
40 rec 275yds 1 TD

That seems like a pretty good running back to me.


He was a pretty good running back, but you would think, at least I did, that the Packers would have a GREAT RB at least once since the 60s.


If more teams had a combo of a Hall of Fame QB paired with a great RB there'd be more dynasties in the NFL. I'm willing to bet you couldn't name Brady's RBs during his superbowl years without google. Let me give you a list of the previous superbowl winning RBs.

2011- Ahmad Bradshaw
2010- James Starks
2009- Reggie Bush/Pierre Thomas
2008- Willie Parker
2007- Brandon Jacobs
2006- Jerome Bettis
2005- Corey Dillion
2004- Kevin Faulk
2003- Michael Pittman
2002- Jamal Lewis
2001- Antowain Smith
2000- Marshall Faulk

Running backs are not nearly as important as you're making them out to be in todays day and age.

I can't think of may teams with 2 Hall of fame QBs, with hopefully a 3rd on his way. Theres 3 decades of phenomenal QB play (give/take a couple years)


OK, so you didn't think that our former QB needed more help, I did. But as my post said, BF didn't have any HOF calibre RBs OR WRs. Bet I could name a lot of premier WR on SuperBowl teams.

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Fri Oct 12, 2012 5:24 pm
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I guess i'll be the one who argues on behalf of Ahman Green

2000: (16 games)
1,175yds 4.5avg 10 TDs
73 rec. 600 yards 3 TDs

2001: (16 games)
1,387yds 4.6avg 9TDs
62rec 600 yards 2 TDs

2002: (14 games)
1,240yds 4.3avg 7 TDs
57rec 400yards 2 TDs

2003: (16 games)
1,883yds 5.3avg 15 TDs
50rec 370yds 5TDs

2004: (15 games)
1,163yds 4.5avg 9 TDs
40 rec 275yds 1 TD

That seems like a pretty good running back to me.


He was a pretty good running back, but you would think, at least I did, that the Packers would have a GREAT RB at least once since the 60s.


If more teams had a combo of a Hall of Fame QB paired with a great RB there'd be more dynasties in the NFL. I'm willing to bet you couldn't name Brady's RBs during his superbowl years without google. Let me give you a list of the previous superbowl winning RBs.

2011- Ahmad Bradshaw
2010- James Starks
2009- Reggie Bush/Pierre Thomas
2008- Willie Parker
2007- Brandon Jacobs
2006- Jerome Bettis
2005- Corey Dillion
2004- Kevin Faulk
2003- Michael Pittman
2002- Jamal Lewis
2001- Antowain Smith
2000- Marshall Faulk

Running backs are not nearly as important as you're making them out to be in todays day and age.

I can't think of may teams with 2 Hall of fame QBs, with hopefully a 3rd on his way. Theres 3 decades of phenomenal QB play (give/take a couple years)


OK, so you didn't think that our former QB needed more help, I did. But as my post said, BF didn't have any HOF calibre RBs OR WRs. Bet I could name a lot of premier WR on SuperBowl teams.


Help doing what. Throwing stupid interceptions to cost his teams big games? C'mon, Bus. And, nice try on Ahamn Green. You now say he needed a HOF running back, not one who gained 1,800 yards rushing in a single season. Much more than any back in the Rodgers era. Faver just wasn't up to the challenge after Holmgren left. Once he got his own locker room and a stooge HC who never challenged him and let him show up whenever he wanted Faver lost interest in the sacrifice necessary for title runs.
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